[Info-vax] VMS Software Releases Roadmap Updates

[Dave Froble]

On 9/27/2021 9:00 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 9/27/2021 8:26 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 9/27/21 2:08 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 9/27/2021 1:53 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2021-09-27, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>>> *IF* you are willing to cross compile your Basic code on Itanium.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I fear that at least some people will question the "production
>>>>> ready" status when native compilers are not available. That is
>>>>> not a real issue (it is common for some types of system to
>>>>> use cross compile), but it could very well be a perceived like
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Not everyone will have an Itanium system. Some people are still
>>>> on Alpha.
>>>>
>>>> It's a pity there's no such thing as an Itanium full-system emulator
>>>> as one solution could have been to give everyone who buys a x86-64
>>>> VMS system a temporary Itanium licence with a two-year expiry period.
>>>
>>> Relevant point.
>>>
>>> There are a significant number of VMS customers still on Alpha.
>>>
>>> But what does a low end Itanium with VMS license cost
>>> from IslandCo?
>>>
>>> 5000??
>>>
>>> (Dave Turner - maybe start advertising a prepacked Itanium with
>>> cross compilers bundle)
>>>
>>> Way too much for a hobbyist but should not be a problem for
>>> commercial context.
>>
>> If I was a CEO and my CIO came to me with a scheme like that he
>> would be looking for a new job.
>
> Maybe. But it would be pretty silly.
>
> You have one or more inhouse applications on VMS
> or you are an ISV selling a VMS application. You spend
> between a few hundreds of thousands per yer up to
> a few dozens of millions per year on that/those
> applications. And you are not willing to spend
> 5000 to get 6-15 months head start on porting
> to the new VMS platform.
>
> That does not make any sense. There can be other
> valid reasons not to do it. Like no need/demand
> or wanting to see the production platform before
> committing to port. But the money in itself should
> not be an issue.
>
> Arne
>

I don't think it was the money.  Bill is a bit old fashioned, like me, 
and just feels the build tools should be native.

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