[Info-vax] Rust as a HS language, was: Re: Quiet?

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 4/7/2022 8:18 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> I don't know how old you are Dan, but I'm old enough to have gone
> through the early years of Java and the insane levels of hype that
> were being generated about Java during those days before things
> settled down and much of it _was_ revealed to be hype.

There were a lot of hype around Java in the late 90's and
very early 00's.

But seen in today's perspective it seems that even the most
optimistic Java enthusiasts back then seriously underestimated
the impact of Java.

Sure it was just another OO language and even though WORA
was nice, then it was not really kicking ass. And many
of the early Java technologies (applets, midlets,
EJB 1.x/2.x etc.) died quickly.

But it became extremely widely used. And most other
languages invented after it (in that market segment) has
been designed to be "a better Java".

And it pulled a lot of new concepts into mainstream
software development - the concepts were not necessarily
invented in the Java world, but the Java world
was where they had their first success driving their
adaptation elsewhere:

focus on interface inheritance over implementation inheritance
reflection
garbage collection
JIT compilation
ORM (entity beans with CMP)
logging frameworks (log4j)
unit testing (JUnit)
etc.

Arne