[Info-vax] Hobbyist licences for VAX

[Michael Moroney]

On 4/11/2022 2:29 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 4/11/2022 1:53 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2022-04-11, gah4 <gah4 at u.washington.edu> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 10:00:07 AM UTC-7, Henry Crun wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>> Or (strictly illegal, at your own risk and I will deny saying this)
>>>> google for pakgen.c
>>>
>>> I haven't read the DMCA so closely, or so recently, but I suspect 
>>> that setting the
>>> date back is also illegal.
>>>
>>
>> The other problem is that, in addition to being illegal in its own right,
>> bypassing old hobbyist licences in this way may make VSI far less 
>> generous
>> when it comes to future hobbyist programs.
>>
>> Simon.
>>
> 
> You're amusing ...
> 
> Do you imagine there is even one person at VSI that doesn't understand 
> the issues, and doesn't sympathize with people wanting to play with an 
> old VAX?
> 
> In addition to that, anyone staying current on working with VMS is a 
> potential resource that just may help VSI.  Such as in a new VMS 
> customer looking for some VMS experience.
> 
> Get off that soapbox ...
> 
When VSI started, VSI got zero rights to anything VAX-specific. That 
would include generating VAX licenses, hobbyist or not.

VAX has become "ignoreware" as far as HPE is concerned.  Someone would 
need to find the person within HPE with the authority to do so, to allow 
a hobbyist group to create hobbyist (or perpetual) licenses legally. 
Good luck, the relevant person is unlikely to be able to even spell "VAX".