[Info-vax] First ship poll: When will the first native x86-64 compilers ship ?

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2022-04-16 kl. 13:28, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
> On 4/15/22 22:10, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 4/15/2022 7:25 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 4/15/2022 7:17 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
>>>> On 15/04/2022 8:44 pm, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 4/15/2022 3:36 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/04/2022 10:37 am, Galen wrote:
>>>>>>> Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> COBOL evangelism, Love of protected subsystems (eg RMS, Rdb), 
>>>>>>>> Depression
>>>>>>>> and PTSD after years of VMS abuse, dreams of VMS
>>>>>>>> backend resurgence. . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What precisely, I dare ask, are you dreaming about VMS back
>>>>>>> ends?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something like Kestrel that talks HTTP and can pass JSON to 3GL
>>>>>> code a la mode de TIER3. FIDO2 Authentication support. To start . .
>>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> Both Java and Python can provide nice embedded HTTP servers, do JSON and
>>>>> potentially interact with native code (Cobol or otherwise), but obvious
>>>>> question is whether it wouldn't be better to do it all in either Java 
>>>>> or Python.
>>>>
>>>> This is the biggest mistake VMS has made for 20 years; throw away the 
>>>> existing
>>>> customer base :-(
>>>
>>> Using the right tool for the job is hardly throwing away the
>>> customer base.
>>>
>>> Cobol, Basic, Pascal, C etc. is just not the optimal language
>>> for writing a new web service.
>>>
>>> Not on any platform.
>>>
>>> Arne
>>
>> Really depends on the web service, doesn't it?

And on the *definition* of "web services".

>>
> 
> Like maybe, IBM zSystem running COBOL with CICS and a DB2 backend.
> 
> bill
> 

And maybe CWS...