[Info-vax] First ship poll: When will the first native x86-64 compilers ship ?

[Richard Maher]

On 16/04/2022 7:25 am, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 4/15/2022 7:17 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
>> On 15/04/2022 8:44 pm, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 4/15/2022 3:36 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
>>>> On 15/04/2022 10:37 am, Galen wrote:
>>>>> Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> COBOL evangelism, Love of protected subsystems (eg RMS,
>>>>>> Rdb), Depression and PTSD after years of VMS abuse, dreams
>>>>>> of VMS backend resurgence. . .
>>>>> 
>>>>> What precisely, I dare ask, are you dreaming about VMS back 
>>>>> ends?
>>>> 
>>>> Something like Kestrel that talks HTTP and can pass JSON to
>>>> 3GL code a la mode de TIER3. FIDO2 Authentication support. To
>>>> start . . .
>>> 
>>> Both Java and Python can provide nice embedded HTTP servers, do
>>> JSON and potentially interact with native code (Cobol or
>>> otherwise), but obvious question is whether it wouldn't be better
>>> to do it all in either Java or Python.
>> 
>> This is the biggest mistake VMS has made for 20 years; throw away
>> the existing customer base :-(
> 
> Using the right tool for the job is hardly throwing away the customer
> base.
> 
> Cobol, Basic, Pascal, C etc. is just not the optimal language for
> writing a new web service.
> 
> Not on any platform.
> 
> Arne

Strings in, strings out, what is so special about your "web service"?

Perhaps you've forgotten the beauty of the Tier3 protocol to abstract 
all of the network comms and leave you with providing an RTL of 6 functions?

I work every year with wankers that don't understand relational DBs and 
SQL and insist on some shit like Entity Framework to try to turn a table 
into a class(es) and other wankers that demand a "model" because they're 
upset JSON is just a String :-(

Put away your bigotry an admit that "what" the server does has nothing 
to do with HTTP!