[Info-vax] First ship poll: When will the first native x86-64 compilers ship ?

[Dave Froble]

On 4/16/2022 7:15 PM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2022-04-17 kl. 00:25, skrev Dave Froble:
>> On 4/16/2022 6:14 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 4/16/2022 11:02 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>>> Den 2022-04-16 kl. 13:28, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
>>>>> On 4/15/22 22:10, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/15/2022 7:25 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>>> Cobol, Basic, Pascal, C etc. is just not the optimal language
>>>>>>> for writing a new web service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not on any platform.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really depends on the web service, doesn't it?
>>>>
>>>> And on the *definition* of "web services".
>>>
>>> There may not be a formal definition, but most developers have
>>> a common understanding what such a thing is.
>>>
>>> Something like: a service intended to be used by client applications
>>> based on web protocols typical XML/HTTP(S) or JSON/HTTP(S).
>>>
>>> Arne
>>>
>>
>> Well, there you go again, refining the definition to match your claims.  Of
>> course that makes you right.
>>
>> How about anything that offers some service that might be needed over the
>> internet?
>>
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> That is not the common definition. "The internet" is a lot of other
> things than "the web". The web is usualy defined by a collectins of
> protocols and there are manby other protocols used on the internet.
>
> Note that "the internet" and "the web" is not the same thing.
>
> You can create a socket listener that clients conects to, but that
> has very litle to do with "the web".
>
> As Arne also wrote, a "web service" use the protocols that are used
> between web client (usually web browsers) and web servers. The web
> servers then uses web services server processes.
>
> A traditional "socket listener" is not a "web service".
>
>
>

Yeah, Ok, but they all have socket listeners at the core with additional stuff 
piled on top.

Not sure if I'm interested in arguing symantics.

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