[Info-vax] vax vms licenses

[Dave Froble]

On 4/26/2022 1:21 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2022-04-26, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>> On 4/26/2022 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-25, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/25/2022 1:20 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The alternative viewpoint is that their short-term aggressive licence
>>>>> policies could be scaring off VMS the customers who would have made up
>>>>> their long-term income.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What if a number of VMS customers, currently with support contracts, just
>>>> declared "no, we won't accept that"?  Do you really think VSI would let them
>>>> just walk?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The evidence coming out of France is that VSI are indeed allowing the
>>> customers to walk away rather than addressing the concerns of those
>>> customers when it comes to the time-limited production licences.
>>>
>>> Simon.
>>>
>>
>> How many customers have walked away?  Can you name even one?
>>
>
> David, have you read _anything_ that Gerard has posted ???

Yes, I have.  Now address my question.  Can you name one VMS customer that 
intended to stay on VMS but then walked away because of the licensing?  Not 
someone complaining.  Someone who actually walked away.

There is ALWAYS a minimum of two sides to every story, and frankly, I'm not sure 
just what Gerald has been trying to say.  It seems as if he's contradicting all 
of my conversations with VSI.

> French users who _want_ to stay with VMS are being pushed away from
> VMS by the VSI licencing and the utter unwillingness of VSI to engage
> with the French users in any meaningful way that addresses their
> concerns.

So says one side.

> That's just one set of users who have chosen to speak to VSI as
> a group and to brief the community on the results of those discussions.
>
> I can only imagine just how badly this licencing decision is being
> thought of privately elsewhere. In summary, users are going to have
> serious issues with allowing the continued working of their systems
> to be tied to VSI staying in business.

I do agree with the issue.

> After all, those users have their own continued employment and pensions
> to think of.

And VSI doesn't?


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