[Info-vax] vax vms licenses

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 4/26/22 20:39, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 4/26/2022 8:30 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 4/26/22 20:17, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 4/26/2022 8:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> On 4/26/22 19:58, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 4/26/2022 7:11 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/26/2022 4:29 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/26/22 15:12, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <t47lt0$1pi$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>>>>>>>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>> What if a number of VMS customers, currently with support 
>>>>>>>>> contracts, just
>>>>>>>>> declared "no, we won't accept that"?  Do you really think VSI 
>>>>>>>>> would let them
>>>>>>>>> just walk?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It depends on how many there are and whether they would really 
>>>>>>>> walk if
>>>>>>>> VSI stood firm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The bad side of all this is I expect no one is going to publicly
>>>>>>> state they are leaving because of this. I expect that options other
>>>>>>> than VMS will be looked at and projects to move away from VMS will
>>>>>>> be started.  The move will only become apparent when they fail to
>>>>>>> renew their licenses and by then it will be much too late to fix it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know any businessmen that are so passive.  Most will get 
>>>>>> in a vendor's face and let them know what they want.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they want to stay on VMS then they would of course
>>>>> tell VSI what they want to see for them to be able
>>>>> to stay on VMS.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be crazy to keep what they want a secret. VSI
>>>>> are not mind readers.
>>>>
>>>> I assumed we were talking about businessmen like the various French
>>>> who appear to have been unable to get any acceptable information out
>>>> of VSI.  I was merely pointing out that it was unlikely they would
>>>> then run around shouting "I'm leaving VMS" from the rooftops.  They
>>>> would merely continue running while working on a replacement and would
>>>> then just become another ex-VMS user.
>>>
>>> They will tell VSI.
>>>
>>> But they will not tell the world. Companies very rarely
>>> explains stuff like that to the public.
>>
>> Why tell VSI?  Once the decision has been made and money, time
>> and effort invested in the move what would they expect to gain?
> 
> They would tell VSI before the decision is made to see
> if VSI will change their mind.
> 

And now your back to the original point.  People apparently have
told VSI ans VSI apparently said "We will consider it for customers
we consider special.  For the rest, no."  At that point if a
customer decides to move off of VMS there is no reason to tell VSI 
anything.

I used to be a DISH customer.  Service got bad.  I complained. They
opted to do nothing but offer the service to others at a cheaper rate
than they were charging me.  I let the service run out and moved to
DirecTV.  I didn't tell DISH I was leaving.  They found out when I
didn't renew the contract.  I guess that can be another kind of sticker
shock.  Only in the negative direction.  :-)

bill