[Info-vax] Another "Rendez-vous autour de VMS" in France (report)

[Richard Maher]

On 4/12/2022 11:38 am, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 12/3/2022 10:27 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 12/3/2022 10:16 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
>>> On 3/12/2022 10:16 pm, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> Message queues has become a part of most new solutions today.
>>>> 
>>>> There are 3 big players in the message queue server market: - 
>>>> RabbitMQ - ActiveMQ/ArtemisMQ - Kafka
>>>> 
>>>> Note 1: Kafka is not a traditional message queue server, but it
>>>> is a relevant alternative in some cases.
>>>> 
>>>> Note 2: various commercial offerings from IBM, Oracle, MS etc.
>>>> still exist but the open source ones dominate the market.
>>>> 
>>>> But in many ways the choice of server is not so important as
>>>> standard protocols has been created to talk to to those
>>>> servers: AMQP, STOMP and MQTT.
>>> 
>>> Personally, I see message queues as a 90's solution.
>> 
>> ActiveMQ is from 2004, RabbitMQ is from 2007 and Kafka is from
>> 2011.
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>>> Same with ESBs.
>> 
>> The big IBM/Oracle/MS/JBoss/whoever ESB's sold well up in the
>> 00's.
>> 
>> But they never delivered what they promised.
>> 
>> But simple message queues survived.
> 
> Small and medium size solutions use ActiveMQ/ArtemisMQ or RabbitMQ 
> (probably mostly depending on whether they prefer product names that 
> start with J or not).
> 
> Large size solutions go for Kafka. Kafka is really the only option
> for extreme workloads.
> 
> A few of the big Kafka users are:
> 
> LinkedIn - 100 clusters with 4000 nodes processing 7 trillion 
> messages per day (2019)
> 
> Pinterest - 50 clusters with 3000 nodes and a peak processing of 40
> million messages per second (2021).
> 
> Arne
> 

SO they use Message Queues to mirror/distribute messages/copies?
>