[Info-vax] Ghostscript and HTML Browser on X86

[chris]

On 12/14/22 17:15, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2022-12-14 kl. 15:37, skrev chris:
>> On 12/12/22 15:36, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 12/12/2022 10:07 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>> In article <tn7fft$1i5h$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
>>>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>>> Web browser is an entirely different story. I think the short
>>>>> version is that it will not happen.
>>>>
>>>> I remember when people were saying that VMS on x86 would never happen.
>>>
>>> x86-64 became more capable and Alpha and Itanium was dropped, so
>>> suddenly there were a business case for porting VMS to x86-64.
>>>
>>> Maybe it is my lack of imagination, but I cannot see any change
>>> in circumstances that would create a business case for web browser
>>> on VMS.
>>>
>>
>> Ridiculous situation, for any modern os not to have html browser
>> support. Admin and other everyday tasks have required the use of a
>> html browser for decades now and the lack of puts vms at a serious
>> disadvantage from a systems management point of view. People still
>> think a text only interface is good enough in 2022 ?, complately
>> naive.
>>
>> Not easy to build Firefox, tried it here, endless dependencies on
>> other packages, but it will be needed, vms kicking and screaming or
>> not...
>>
>> Chris
>>
> 
> I must have completely missed the whole "web-thing"...
> 
> I thought that any web-browser must have a web-server to actually
> do any "work" at all. You cannot do much with a browser alone.
> 
> Only having a browser on VMS doesn't help much...
> 


> And if you have a web server on VMS, the browser can run anyware.

Exactly, but it does need a web server on the target host to do that.
Is web based management available ion vms now. Iirc, I think there
was a product years ago that did that for vms and many others. A
sort of universal manage all idea.

The ilom on most servers i've seen in the past few years has primary
access via a browser and webpage layout, but you can also ssh across
the network and login via a terminal program via the serial port.

I'm not suggesting that a browser is essential, but it's just such
a useful tool. I use a gui interface for software dev, but usually
half a dozen or so terminal / shell windows open at once, as most
work is still done via command line. Just seems odd to me that there
is no web browser for vms.

Use all available tools, and the more options available, the easier
it can be to improve workflow...

Chris


> 
> And it is much more practical to use the same browser that you use
> for everything else, the one on your laptop/desktop system. Or is
> you plan to use the VMS browser for all your other everyday tasks?
> 
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