[Info-vax] The real problem that needs solving to grow VMS

Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Thu Dec 15 14:39:36 EST 2022


On 12/15/22 02:24, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 12/14/2022 10:56 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
>> In article <tnduv4$68n$1 at gioia.aioe.org>,
>> Arne Vajhøj  <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>> On 12/14/2022 8:35 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
>>>> In article <tnds9h$1dug$1 at gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>> Arne Vajhøj  <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>> Given that there must be lots of risks that
>>>>> apply to VMS but not to Linux and lots of risks
>>>>> that apply to Linux but not to VMS, then the fact that
>>>>> this risk apply to VMS but not to Linux does
>>>>> not make Linux more attractive.
>>>>
>>>> This is the thing: what risks apply to Linux that do not apply
>>>> to VMS?  Seriously.  Give me an example.
>>>
>>> Vulnerabilities in systemd.
>>
>> First of all, it is not necessary to run systemd, and there are
>> Linux distros that don't ship it.
>>
>> But if we're going to go there, now count vulnerabilities in
>> VMS...but apply the same microscope of research to VMS that we
>> do to Linux, to make it a fair comparison.
>>
>>> GPL being declared illegal by the supreme court.
>>
>> The GPL has been tested in court multiple times, and this has
>> never even been close to an outcome.  Moreover, how many
>> large organizations have bet their collective farms on it?
>> If Google, Amazon, Meta, any number of government labs,
>> not to mention Fortune 500 companies are running Linux in
>> mission-critical roles, do you really think that is likely to
>> happen?  Didn't their lawyers scrutinize it with respect to
>> existing caselaw?
> 
> Nothing is guaranteed.  How many actually though Roe vs Wade would be 
> reversed? The unexpected can happen.

This one really confuses me.  What effect would declaring the GPL to be
invalid actually have?  Mind you, I have never thought the GPL would
actually stand up in court if it faced a serious challenge.

bill





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