[Info-vax] And another one bites the dust....

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Tue Feb 15 09:34:20 EST 2022


On 2/15/2022 9:19 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 2/15/22 09:02, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 2/15/2022 8:04 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> National Computing Group
>>> West Mifflin, PA
>>>
>>> Document, plan and execute the modernization of Fortran applications 
>>> running on OpenVMS systems to a virtualized Windows Server environment.
>>> --------
>>>
>>> Does anyone watch for these postings and then try to convince them to
>>> not move away from VMS?   Or at least find out why they are moving.
>>
>> It is VSI's job to monitor migrations and argue for keeping VMS.
> 
> Agreed.  But does anyone actually do it?

We will probably never know.

:-)

>> Why people are moving off VMS are pretty well known. Generally being
>> on a niche platform is considered a risk. The wording above hint
>> that not being able to run on VMWare servers is a significant
>> problem for that company as well.
> 
> "virtualized Windows Server" does not necessarily mean VMWare.  Windows
> has its own virtualization product.

True.

VMWare or Hyper-V.

>> So if VMS 9.2 has been released 2-3 years ago then maybe (just maybe)
>> this company would have kept VMS. But it was not.
>>
>> It would be good for VSI to push info about VMS x86-64. If I were
>> responsible for marketing at VSI then I would send out an offer
>> to join the VMS x86-86 field test program to every company that is
>> using VMS. Not because there necessarily will be any benefits for
>> them or VSI of them joining, but because it send a strong
>> signal that VMS x86-64 is just around the corner.
> 
> Maybe, but the push seems to be for virtualization

That is very common. Virtualization is a must have and
containers is a nice to have.

>                                                  and I saw a number
> of OpenVMS job announcements that seemed to be production floor systems
> which probably can't virtualized.

Maybe.

Arne



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