[Info-vax] Userland programming languages on VMS.

Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Mon Jan 31 15:26:20 EST 2022


On 1/31/22 14:33, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 1/31/2022 12:29 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 1/31/22 03:25, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On 2022-01-31 01:22, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2022-01-29, Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Pascal is pretty limited but makes it hard to shoot yourself in the 
>>>>> foot.
>>>>> And most implementations don't use null-terminated strings which 
>>>>> are the
>>>>> most serious source of vulnerabilities in C code.
>>>>> --scott
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't call Pascal "limited". DEC used it to implement VAXELN...
>>>
>>> The problem is that the ISO standard for Pascal is pretty useless.
>>
>> Pretty useless for what?  Tasks for which the language was not designed?
>>
>>>                                                                     
>>> Which is
>>> why every useful Pascal have extensions...
>>> And they are all different...
>>> Which makes everything very non-standard...
>>
>> Thus the reason they should have come up with new names and not called
>> themselves Pascal, which they were not.
>>
>>>
>>> But Pascal is definitely not that bad a language. But it has it's 
>>> warts...
>>
>> Pascal is ideal for what it was designed for.  Too bad people still
>> don't understand the concept of "choose the right tool for the job".
> 
> What about a "jack of all trades" that can do any job?

Like choosing the wrong language for a task a "jack of all trades"
is famous for doing everything, but none of the tasks well.  It is
not a compliment to be called one.

bill





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