[Info-vax] For sale: VAXstation 4000/90 128MB Fully Working and Tested

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 7/1/22 11:05, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 7/1/2022 8:14 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 7/1/2022 4:30 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> ensure that frontend/UI technology is modern, there are so much
>>>> to choose from, I would suggest Grails
>>>
>>> I have no idea whether Grails is good or bad.  To my mind there are 
>>> too many of
>>> these frameworks, it feels like a new one appears most days, spreading
>>> themselves too thinly.
>>
>> It is not so much the quantity of "new" that is occurring, as the 
>> contention of some that we all must embrace the "new", regardless of 
>> whether what exists is working well and is not broken.
> 
> I don't think the claim is that you should embrace the new.

Of course it is.  Just look at OOP.  COBOL users refused to accept it
because it really offered nothing they needed to get the job done and
added layers of unneeded complexity.  The result was a full force attack
against COBOL that continues to this day.

> 
> More like continuously evaluating whether new stuff has some
> advantages over old stuff.

Most of it does not.  It's the old risk/benefit argument.  Most of the
changes foisted onto the IT world offered little if any needed benefit
and brought a lot of risk that adversely affects business daily.

> 
>> Once again I refer to the wheel, which isn't broken, and doesn't need 
>> replaced.
> 
> If you took the wheels from your first car and put on your current car, > then I suspect that you would not like them.

But is that due to a flaw in the wheel or the fact that they forced
changes in the car to require different wheels?

> 
> The old wheels worked but some progress has been made since then.

Not in their general design.  I suppose you are one of those
people who think low profile tires are the cat's pajamas.

bill