[Info-vax] Taking a break - Open Source on OpenVMS Conference Calls Resume

[seasoned_geek]

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 9:56:51 AM UTC-5, John Dallman wrote:
> In article <4ae4de33-ba0d-403a... at googlegroups.com>,
> rol... at logikalsolutions.com (seasoned_geek) wrote: 
> 
> > So far, everyone I know that does phone apps and used to use QT 
> > has jumped to Dart. They are writing their apps using Dart on 
> > Fuchsia.
> How many organisations and apps is that? Qt hasn't exactly dominated UI 
> in smartphone apps AFAIK.

I don't know, but it was quite a few. They had a lot of developers that knew nothing so they loved QML. If you are getting a phone app for Ford or one of the other major American automotive brands you are getting a Qt app because Ford standardized on it for both the infotainment system any any apps they ship. An exact number I don't know. 

> > Microsoft is going to sell a Windows Desktop that installs on the 
> > Linux of your choice, just like KDE, Gnome, etc.
> Will it run existing Windows programs? Doing that requires having a large 
> fraction of the Windows OS, over and above the desktop. 
> 
Not really no. MS has been migrating to DOT-NOT-EVERYWHERE or is it DOT-NOT-ANYWHERE for years. It's how they have been straddling the Apple BSD based OS.

Just what "programs" does Microsoft actually have?

I'm serious. During the age of Windows for Workgroups your point was highly valid. I believe 2019 is the last installible version of MS Office one can purchase and you __really__ have to hunt for it. MS has tried to force customers to Office 365 on the cloud. That just needs a browser. The Windows 10 Solitaire game requires an Internet connection to pump advertisements at you, and to run because it is pretty much just a browser front end too.

The vendors in the Microsoft store are all going to be screwed, yes. Linux developers will need for Qt, CopperSpice, wxWidgets, insert-heavy-cross-platform-UI-library-here, to support the new desktop. Most of them are still scrambling to get something that actually works with Wayland right now.

Microsoft and quite a few others are in the process of eliminating the "personal computer." They all want you 100% connected to the Internet paying for subscriptions. They want a dumb browser terminal that supports touch/mouse/keyboard and has no local apps. Without an Internet connection what you have is a brick. They are pushing the "personal browser" device.

Has anyone looked under the hood for Windows 11? I haven't, but I hear there is almost nothing you can do without an Internet connection.