[Info-vax] The changing world

[chris]

On 07/04/22 23:40, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2022-07-02 19:05, chris wrote:
>> On 07/02/22 15:56, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2022-07-02 at 10:19 +0000, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
>>> wrote:
>>>>> So I wonder, why did GB have to toe the line so closely?
>>>>
>>>> It didn't.
>>>
>>> And they won't, two bills currently before Parliament will override the
>>> treaties the UK signed wih the EU.
>>>
>>> Not good news in the long run. Who will trust us if we break our word?
>>
>> The EU is fine so long as they get all their own way, but if you want
>> just one example of the velvet glove on iron hand, look at the way that
>> Greece was crushed. Encouraged to join, knowing full well their finances
>> were not valid, EU played hard ball, private savings stolen, with Greece
>> now owned by German banks. Not a shot fired, strange isn't it ?. Don't
>> trust them an inch, competitors, not friends.
>
> Greece also knew very well what it was getting into. Don't try to
> pretend that this was a one way street. Mismanaged and in debt, and they
> want to have the cake and eat it. Guess what? Somewhere down the line,
> someone always have to pay.
>

Whatever Greece knew, the EU were more than happy to say yes.
Responsible adult ?, I don't think so.

>> Anyway, the agreements were just that, with an exit clause if found
>> not to be working, as in the NI issue. For better or worse, our
>> parliament should have the last word on all issues that cannot be
>> successfully negotiated...
>
> You should try that with your bank after you signed the papers and you
> don't like the conditions. I'm sure they would be very amused. :-)
>
> Johnny

Conveniently missing the clause allowing exit from the agreement
if found not be working properly. The admin for product going
into NI can be up to 100 pages and is being enforced ruthlessly
by an EU wishing to make an example of us. They revel in
nitpicking and delay.

You seem to have a rose tinted view of the EU, when in reality,
the only way to deal with them is via hard balled diplomacy,
reflecting the way that they treat us...

Chris