[Info-vax] The changing world

[Johnny Billquist]

On 2022-07-05 12:21, seasoned_geek wrote:
> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 8:52:26 PM UTC-5, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 7/4/2022 6:48 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On 2022-07-04 17:12, chris wrote:
>>
>> Not that solar is the answer. It can help. Nuclear is clean, and just works.
> 
> Except nobody put in place any plan or workable science to deal with the waste. Multiple states passed laws banning the transport of nuclear waste across them. Wouldn't really matter because ___THROWING IT IN A HOLE IS NOT AN ANSWER___.

The US specific problems is at another level, but sure, they need to be 
sorted as well, for that country to work.

But really, the problem of how to deal with waste should have been given 
some more attention. But it's sortof been on the backburner, since 
people keep hoping that the sun will shine and the wind will blow, and 
suddenly we'll have all the power we need without any waste. Except of 
course, we need the power the most when the sun shines the least, which 
also happens to usually be when it blows the least. And then we suddenly 
want electric cars, because they are so clean, and suddenly the power 
consumption will quadruple in no time. And especially in winter, when 
batteries perform the worst. Which again is the time of little sun and wind.

> So, we have massively inefficient nuclear reactors (less than 1% per my friend who used to design and install them). They are changing out rods something like once or multiple times per year instead of once every 30 years as originally promised and all of the nuclear waste is stored on site. Usually it is stored in concrete pools filled with water. Those pools leak. The village of Essex, IL found that out when radioactive Trillium? Tridium? one of those "tri" radioactive things got into the ground water.

The inefficiency of nuclear rectors are indeed staggering. And even so, 
they produce so much power. We really should have been focusing on 
improving them instead of planning on turning them off.

Bad plans or management at specific sites is however not an argument 
against the power source. You'll be equally unimpressed about oil in 
your drinking water.

> If you don't mind drinking glowing water and the occasional mushroom cloud up the street, not to mention all of the radioactive water dumped into some of the most abundant shrimp fishing around Japan, it's not so bad.

Same argument can be done against any power source.

   Johnny