[Info-vax] The changing world

[Richard Maher]

On 6/07/2022 4:51 am, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2022-07-05 15:21, chris wrote:
>> On 07/05/22 11:03, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't live in the EU (hello Switzerland). But when you define hardball
>>> diplomacy as "we'll sign this agreement, and then we'll break it", you
>>> can bet you are going to be in a bad position.
>>> That is, of course, your choice. But as others observed, that means that
>>> in the longer run, noone will sign many agreements with you. What is the
>>> point if you just keep breaking them when it's convenient for you.
>>>
>>> My opinion is that you should just have bitten the the bullet, and
>>> accepted the placement of hard border controls in NI, instead of trying
>>> to weasel NI to something semi-inside the EU while you are outside. What
>>> did you really expect was going to happen with that??? Either you are in
>>> or you are out. Don't try to eat the cake and keep it at the same time.
>>>
>>> Johnny
>>
>>  From what I heard, Switzerland have their own issues with EU regulation,
>> with Swiss banking being held over a barrel by a dictatorial and
>> stubborn EU. How has that worked out, for a country not even a
>> member ?. When will people wake up, the EU is about power and control,
>> not democracy...
> 
> Uh. While the Swiss certainly have their issues with some things in the 
> EU, the major bully is the US. Which rock have you been living under?
> 
> US citizens, or even anyone with any remote economic connection to the 
> US, will realize if they move to Switzerland, what an ugly situation 
> that is.
> Banks usually just outright refuse to have people with US connections as 
> customers. EU is nowhere near that.
> 
> And unlike the UK, the Swiss have accepted that there are customs and 
> borders with the EU, and you have customs and costs when moving goods 
> across. And movement of people is not free.
> 
> You know, it's actually not that difficult. You just have to accept that 
> if you are outside, you actually are outside. It's just the UK that is 
> trying to do something really weird, even though they signed papers 
> agreeing that they couldn't do something weird.
> 
> And no chest-thumping nationalistic rant is going to change that. You 
> are now outside. DEAL WITH IT!
> 
>    Johnny

Unfortunately the DUP agree with you and all that the hard-border would 
entail.

BTW. I When Bill said I'm talking about countries I'm not sure if he was 
nationalistic Irish or just ignorant.