[Info-vax] The changing world
Michael S
already5chosen at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 6 06:53:24 EDT 2022
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 1:38:50 AM UTC+3, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 7/5/22 17:36, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> > In article <62c31ea6$0$702$1472... at news.sunsite.dk>,
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= <ar... at vajhoej.dk> writes:
> >
> >>> Yes, but it was announced as a non-binding referendum and it is clear
> >>> that many would have voted differently if it had been declared as
> >>> binding.
> >>
> >> I don't know how clear that is.
> >>
> >> It seems pretty weird to me to vote to leave if they wanted
> >> to stay because they assumed that the referendum result would
> >> be ignored.
> >
> > I think that it is stupid, but there is such a thing as a "protest vote"
> > where people vote other than they normally would in order to make a
> > point (which is usually not noticed).
> >
> >>> Of course, one is not forbidden to implement the result of a
> >>> non-binding referenendum,
> >>
> >> I would say that it is expected to implement the result of
> >> such a referendum.
> >>
> >> Otherwise there is no point.
> >
> > Then what is the point of explicitly declaring it non-binding?
> >
> >>> but if it is a) non-binding and b) close, as
> >>> in this case, then common sense dictates that there should have been a
> >>> binding referendum after, say, 6 months of debate.
> >>
> >> There were a referendum. People voted. The politicians followed
> >> the majority's opinion.
> >
> > See above. Why was it declared to be non-binding.
> >
> > Another things which I think is stupid: if there is a referendum, it
> > must fulfill several criteria, one of which is that it be binding. But
> > the Brexit referendum was explicitly declared to be non-binding.
> >
> >> If the politicians had ignored the result or ordered a new referendum
> >> hoping or a better result I could see a democratic problem.
> >
> > No problem if a BINDING referendum was ordered.
> >
> If I had to interpret this I would say that it was made non-binding
> because the pro-BREXIT people did not expect it to pass and did not
> want their hands tied. It went the other way and the rest, as they
> say, is history.
>
> bill
David Cameron, who was at power during referendum, is remainer.
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