[Info-vax] The changing world

Michael S already5chosen at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 6 06:53:24 EDT 2022


On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 1:38:50 AM UTC+3, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 7/5/22 17:36, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote: 
> > In article <62c31ea6$0$702$1472... at news.sunsite.dk>, 
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= <ar... at vajhoej.dk> writes: 
> > 
> >>> Yes, but it was announced as a non-binding referendum and it is clear 
> >>> that many would have voted differently if it had been declared as 
> >>> binding. 
> >> 
> >> I don't know how clear that is. 
> >> 
> >> It seems pretty weird to me to vote to leave if they wanted 
> >> to stay because they assumed that the referendum result would 
> >> be ignored. 
> > 
> > I think that it is stupid, but there is such a thing as a "protest vote" 
> > where people vote other than they normally would in order to make a 
> > point (which is usually not noticed). 
> > 
> >>> Of course, one is not forbidden to implement the result of a 
> >>> non-binding referenendum, 
> >> 
> >> I would say that it is expected to implement the result of 
> >> such a referendum. 
> >> 
> >> Otherwise there is no point. 
> > 
> > Then what is the point of explicitly declaring it non-binding? 
> > 
> >>> but if it is a) non-binding and b) close, as 
> >>> in this case, then common sense dictates that there should have been a 
> >>> binding referendum after, say, 6 months of debate. 
> >> 
> >> There were a referendum. People voted. The politicians followed 
> >> the majority's opinion. 
> > 
> > See above. Why was it declared to be non-binding. 
> > 
> > Another things which I think is stupid: if there is a referendum, it 
> > must fulfill several criteria, one of which is that it be binding. But 
> > the Brexit referendum was explicitly declared to be non-binding. 
> > 
> >> If the politicians had ignored the result or ordered a new referendum 
> >> hoping or a better result I could see a democratic problem. 
> > 
> > No problem if a BINDING referendum was ordered. 
> >
> If I had to interpret this I would say that it was made non-binding 
> because the pro-BREXIT people did not expect it to pass and did not 
> want their hands tied. It went the other way and the rest, as they 
> say, is history. 
> 
> bill

David Cameron, who was at power during referendum, is remainer.



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