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[Arne Vajhøj]

On 7/3/2022 8:13 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 7/2/2022 8:26 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 7/1/22 20:41, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 7/1/2022 6:45 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> Most of the Fortune 500 still use mainframes and COBOL. Most major 
>>>> banks
>>>> still use mainframes and COBOL.  Credit Card companies.  Airlines.  All
>>>> of the major automobile companies.  All of the major Aircraft 
>>>> companies.
>>>> The Government at all levels except maybe local who never made it past
>>>> the PC.
>>>
>>> There are a lot of Cobol code running. And there will continue to
>>> be for decades.
>>> But the new stuff are done with other languages.

>>                              When you look at percentages ot languages
>> used COBOL seems to be on the decline.  But if you classify work by its
>> actual value, well, Candy Crush wasn't written in COBOL and neither was
>> Minecraft.  But when it comes to banking, insurance and other really
>> needed application....
> 
> Cobol is becoming a pretty small part of what the financial sector use.
> 
> They prefer C++, Java, Python etc. for new projects.
> 
>>> And companies slowly migrate off. Not many, maybe just a few percent
>>> per year. But it accumulate over many years.
>>
>> Very few of the important ones are migrating off and many of those
>> that do migrate into failures.
> 
> Some succeed.
> 
> And it accumulates.

A recent case: Fedex.

They are moving from Cobol/IBM mainframe/own data center
to "cloud native"/Azure & Oracle cloud.

The CIO announced when this thread was going on that
they has already moved 80% of applications and that
the remaining 20% would all be done in 2024.

He did not mention what "cloud native" covers,
but elsewhere it is revealed to be:
- Angular for client side
- Java and Spring Boot for applications
- kubernetes and docker for infrastructure

Which is not really surprising. In the 1980's nobody got fired
for choosing IBM. Today nobody get fired (in a large conservative
company) for choosing above stack.

Arne