[Info-vax] VMS VAX License for personal Microvax 3100 Model 40

[Dave Froble]

On 7/25/2022 3:22 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2022-07-25, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>> On 7/25/2022 8:17 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2022-07-25, David Wade <g4ugm at dave.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 24/07/2022 15:07, Robert Grear wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently working on restoring a Microvax 3100 Model 40 to operating condition and have downloaded OpenVMS version 7.1.  At this point, I am trying to find out how to obtain a license for this version.  I have sent messages to HPE, and VMS Software but neither has been able to assist me.  My 3100 Model 40 will be used for strictly personal use, no business use.  Can anyone here guide me on how I can accomplish this?  Any help at all will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Try searching for "VMS Liberation Front" to keep you going while you try
>>>> and get HP to transfer the licence some one will have paid an awefull
>>>> lot of money for...
>>>>
>>>
>>> It would be better if people, especially people who are generally
>>> well regarded, do not start pointing other people to illegal material.
>>>
>>> As well as being illegal in its own right, it also damages potential
>>> future hobbyist licences.
>>>
>>> Simon.
>>>
>>
>> So Simon, what is your sage advice to the OP?
>>
>
> Try the contact details Dan gave him. If he doesn't want to pay those
> prices, switch to VSI Alpha VMS, which runs just fine in an emulator
> and has a hobbyist program.

He is restoring a MicroVAX 3100 Model 40.  In case you are unaware, it would 
have a VAX CPU.

>> Perhaps:
>>
>> Too bad for you ...
>> Forget it ...
>> Run Unix ...
>>
>
> Everything has its time. For example, you can no longer legally run the
> DEC PDP-11 operating systems on a hobbyist licence.
>
>> If someone wants to run VAX/VMS for personal use, cause there is no commercial
>> use anymore, what is so wrong with that?
>>
>> Does DEC care?  DEC doesn't exist.
>> Does Compaq care?  Compaq doesn't exist.
>> Does HP care?  Try asking them.
>>
>> I'm really curious, why are you so intent on protecting someone else's property?
>>   What is your vested interest?
>>
>
> For one thing, in addition to it being wrong, I'm also trying to stop
> people from damaging future related hobbyist licence programs, David.

There is no VAX/VMS hobbyist thingy ...

>> If HPe cares, let them say so.  Don't hold your breath waiting for their
>> announcement.
>>
>
> At this point, I am way more concerned about people pissing off VSI
> than I am about them pissing off HPE.
>
> Simon.
>

VSI has nothing to do with VAX/VMS.


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