[Info-vax] Taking a break - Open Source on OpenVMS Conference Calls Resume in the FALL of 2022...

[chris]

On 06/17/22 14:33, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 6/17/2022 9:18 AM, chris wrote:
>> On 06/16/22 21:55, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 6/15/2022 8:23 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> The Cygwin approach of providing core Unix compatibility functionality
>>>> in a library and then building Unix applications against that library
>>>> would indeed appear to be the best approach for VMS, given that it has
>>>> been a major success story on Windows and has provided us with a rich
>>>> Unix userland environment on Windows.
>>>
>>> *nix compatibility is definitely a good thing.
>>>
>>> But a few comments.
>>>
>>> 1) Cygwin is not a success on Windows. It is a great thing, but
>>> it has not gotten mainstream for Windows development and
>>> its use is pretty rare.
>>
>> It's definately a success for those  who need its functionality. As
>> a developer, it allows me to run X under cygwin on windows and
>> to access a whole myriad of useful apps and as much of a unix like
>> environment as needed. For those who must use windows, cygwin
>> adds so much functionality, and unlike some offerings, it's quite
>> lightweight in resource usage as well.
>>
>> I know uSoft have a linux environment package for windows, but
>> they really are a bit late to the game. Cygwin don't make a big
>> noise in publicity terms, but it just gets the job done...
>
> I like Cygwin. I have always had it on my Windows PC's for more
> than 2 decades. I don't use that much of it and I never use
> bash, but I like many of the utilities.
>
> But if you look at what software for Windows is being build
> with then MSVC++ is by far the majority and number two is
> GCC mingw*. GCC cygwin is a niche.
>
> For whatever reason the average Windows + *nix developer
> seem to prefer #ifdef'ing and building with either MSVC++
> or GCC mingw* instead of GCC cygwin.
>
> As a data point with significant impact look at
> Boost.
>
> Arne
>

Two to 3 decades here as well. Originally from a DEC systems
environment, but with familiarity, always preferred a unix like
environment for development work. Can understand why some
prefer a windows environment for windows app work, but more
real time embedded here, where unix scores because of the
overall flexibility. In general, windows is here on sufferance,
because off some legacy apps, but that's about it.


Like like so much else, depends on the area you are working
in. Computing is a very broad church these days...

Chris