[Info-vax] Taking a break - Open Source on OpenVMS Conference Calls Resume in the FALL of 2022...

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 6/19/2022 10:37 AM, seasoned_geek wrote:
> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 5:49:30 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 6/18/2022 11:53 AM, seasoned_geek wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:32:21 AM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2022 11:00 AM, Chris Townley wrote:
>>>>> On 17/06/2022 14:33, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>> I like Cygwin. I have always had it on my Windows PC's for more
>>>>>> than 2 decades. I don't use that much of it and I never use
>>>>>> bash, but I like many of the utilities.
>>>>> Have you looked at Windows Subsystem for Linux as an option?
>>>> My impression is that WSL is more for people developing
>>>> for Linux on Windows than for for Windows users
>>>> wanting to use some *nix utilities.
>>>
>>> It's the first cut of Microsoft Windows becoming "just a desktop" on top of Ubuntu ala Gnome, KDE, etc.
>> Nonsense.
>>
>> WSL 1 is the exact opposite - Linux userland on top of Windows kernel.
>> And WSL 2 is just a VM with Linux.
> 
> Not nonsense, where they are headed. It just takes the tiny x86 minds at Microsoft a while to get there.
> 
> There are huge legal reasons for Microsoft to move in that direction
> especially now with all of the privacy and liability laws being enacted
> globally. When there is a security breach in the Linux TCP/IP stack or
> some other Linux kernel/component there is nobody to hold liable. When
> the same thing happens with Windows, Microsoft can now be held liable.
> 
> If Windows becomes "just another desktop" on top of the Linux kernel, Microsoft can only be held accountable for its portion.

No MS is accountable for what they sell to customers.

> Ford found this out with the Firestone incident. After blaming
> everyone and everything under the sun, the courts ruled "When the
> blue oval is on the grill, Ford is responsible for all of it." That
> same level of litigation has now come to the software world.
Which is exactly why it would not help MS a to claim that the piece
with the bug was not written by MS.

>>> Canonical and Google are moving to Fuchsia.
>> Google has not said that Android will replace
>> Linux with Fuchsia.
>>
>> There are just a lot of rumors going around.
>> Time will tell.
>>
>> They could probably do it. If Android SDK,
>> Android NDK and Play Services are available, then
>> practically everything should work identical whether
>> it is Linux or Fuchsia below.
> 
> No. Android is being EOL in its entirety. Android cannot be fixed.
> The Fuchsia phone Samsung is actively developing is pure Fuchsia using DART
> for the primary app language. No Android anything. No Java support
> what-so-ever.
> 
> https://screenrant.com/future-samsung-smartphones-might-ship-with-fuchsia-os-instead-of-android/
> 
> There are a lot more companies than Samsung adopting Fuchsia now.
> It's had a pretty successful pilot run on the smart speakers.
If you actually read the article then you can see that it is just
speculation.

There are always someone on the internet willing to make some
weird predictions.

A total switch from Android is very unlikely to happen.

The smartphone platform market is extremely difficult to enter.
People will not buy a smartphone without the apps they
use. And the app creators will not supply their apps for a
platform without users.

Arne