[Info-vax] Direct print of PDF files on PDF compatible printers.

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2022-03-02 kl. 16:40, skrev chris:
> On 03/02/22 15:32, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Den 2022-03-02 kl. 16:27, skrev chris:
>>> On 03/02/22 15:21, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>>> Den 2022-03-02 kl. 16:08, skrev chris:
>>>>> On 03/01/22 23:05, gah4 wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 9:16:42 AM UTC-8, Jan-Erik Söderholm
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some of the Xerox laser printer models support direct print of PDF
>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>> Now, we uses DCPS för most of our printing needs. So, should I
>>>>>>> look for
>>>>>>> a way to setup a DCPS queue that will be transparent and just let the
>>>>>>> PDF file through (DCPS itself dosn't support PDF input)? Or is it
>>>>>>> simpler to just setup a queue using the telnetsym, lpd_smb or such?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As well as I know it, PDF is a subset of PS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enough of a subset that there is an automated process to convert
>>>>>> PDF into PS, and the program pdftops to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there printers that support PDF, but not PS?
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing that might solve the problem long term would be to port
>>>>> cups. Pretty foolproof and works out of the box on all the systems
>>>>> and os's tried here. Just about every printer model supported as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could argue that it's not the os's task to process pdf or any
>>>>> other format, other than transparently passing the data. Pdf should be
>>>>> handled by the pdf reader itself, as with most systems these days...
>>>>
>>>> What "PDF reader"? Are you talking about the/a printer?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>
>>> The reader is an application, either the free acrobat from Adobe, or in
>>> use here, the Foxit reader, also free. They do paid for apps that
>>> will edit exiting pdf files. Found that very useful where a pdf based
>>> form is to be filled in. Similar utils exist for unix, linux etc. The
>>> formatting for the printer is done within the app, and just talks to
>>> the printer via the os printer driver...
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>> What has that to do with getting a PDF file out on a printer from a
>> batch routine on an OpenVMS system?
>  >
> 
> I just assume that vms would have the sort of common sense utilities
> that most of the mainstream world has taken for granted for decades
> now, but perhaps i'm wrong.

You do not know what you are talking about.

> 
>>
>> Why do you think that I do not know what an *normal* PDF reader is?
>>
> 
> Well, you did ask the question as to what I meant,

No, I asked why you bring "PDF readers" to the discussion at all.

A "PDF reader" implies that there is a user available. There is not.
This is a background routine run as a batch job. If there was a user
that could run a PDF reader, I would never had asked.