[Info-vax] Special deals on Tape Drives

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 3/5/2022 9:45 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 3/5/22 20:12, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 3/5/2022 8:01 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>> Bill Gunshannon  <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/5/22 16:37, Grant Taylor wrote:
>>>>> On 3/5/22 12:38 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>>> Who is responsible for backups in a Cloud based system?
>>>>>
>>>>> The same people that are responsible for backups when in an on 
>>>>> premises
>>>>> data center.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would the location of the system alter who's responsible for
>>>>> ensuring that backups are being created and tested?
>>>>
>>>> How would I perform backups and test them if I don't even know where,
>>>> physically, the system I am running on is?  If I did, would they even
>>>> let me in the door, much less into the data center?
>>>
>>> "Cloud" is a new word for "timesharing."  You're hiring some people 
>>> to run
>>> computers for you, and that includes doing backups and keeping them 
>>> offsite.
>>> Your service level agreement with them will detail how these are done 
>>> and
>>> how often they are tested, and you have a right to occasionally demand a
>>> restore for test purposes.
>>
>> I think that depends on the type of cloud.
>>
>> With IaaS cloud then I would expect the IT department being responsible
>> for backup as always.
>>
>> Only with PaaS cloud and managed services it would fully be the
>> cloud vendors responsibility to do backup.
> 
> And all these Cloud geniuses know how to do a backup and restore on
> VMS?

If someone offered a VMS based PaaS service, then they would know
how to do it on VMS.

>   And we won't even get into how you get them to store the backups 
> in a different location.

That is the easy part for the big cloud vendors. They got many
locations.

Arne