[Info-vax] Special deals on Tape Drives

Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Wed Mar 9 07:24:06 EST 2022


On 3/9/22 02:25, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 3/8/2022 9:15 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 3/8/22 21:01, Dave Froble wrote:
>>> On 3/8/2022 6:45 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2022-03-08, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, you were born with this knowledge about Linux?
>>>>>
>>>>> I do so dislike double standards ...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Huh ????
>>>>
>>>> _WHAT_ double standards ?
>>>
>>> The discussion was about how difficult it is to learn VMS, due to 
>>> having to
>>> read the extensive documentation.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering how you learned Linux without reading the documentation?
>>
>> I learned Unix from the online Man Pages people always complain
>> about being inadequate documentation.  Of course, back in the
>> V7 days about all we had were the Man pages and papers from Bell
>> Labs.  Learned it all there.  User, Developer and Manager.
>>
>> There was a very good System Administrator's Manual written later
>> (I have an autographed copy!  And 3 of the later additions that
>> added stuff like HP-UX and Linux). But in the beginning you could
>> put all the documentation in a single 1" binder.  If you even
>> bothered to print it out.
> 
> So what are you saying?  Since you seem to dislike learning how to use 
> VMS, are you saying that VMS is bad because it has more (and better) 
> documentation?
> 

No, for one thing, I have never said that VMS was "bad".  VMS is not
bad.  VMS is not good.  VMS is different.  It is also complex.  Some
think it is too complex at the user level.  As for the documentation,
better is a matter of opinion.  I have been doing this crap for over
50 years.  I have worked with more than a dozen very different OSes.
(not counting micro-computers) VMS is by far the most obtuse.  It has
so much documentation because it requires it.  That's my opinion, too.

bill







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