[Info-vax] VMS documentation, was: Re: Special deals on Tape Drives

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 3/16/2022 6:35 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 3/15/22 19:44, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 3/14/2022 6:51 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 3/14/22 18:15, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2022-03-14, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Been there, done that.  Took the Jensen and Wirth "Users Manual and
>>>>> Report" with me on vacation and learned Pascal in two weeks.
>>>>
>>>> Pascal's a little easier to learn than C++. :-)
>>>
>>> The much more experienced programmers where I was working at the time
>>> would not agree with you.
>>
>> Most would agree with Simon.
>>
>> C++ is a way more complex language than Pascal.
>>
>> Or to qualify it: ISO C++ is way more complex
>> than ISO non-extended Pascal and more complex than
>> VMS Pascal.
>>
>> (Object Pascal and Delphi are probably as complex
>> as ISO C++)
>>
>> Just the fact that C++ support procedural, object oriented,
>> generic and in recent versions functional programming ensures
>> that.
> 
> You misunderstood.  :-)
> 
> I didn't mean they would have thought (C++ hadn't been invented yet
> at that point in time) C++ easier to learn than Pascal.

Well - you replied to "Pascal's a little easier to learn than C++."
with "The much more experienced programmers where I was working at
the time would not agree with you.".

>                                                         They would
> have believed both were too complex to learn and should not have been
> considered for introduction into the production environment.
> 
> Most of them couldn't even do PL/I and none of them could do assembler.

I think it would have been difficult to find a language easier to learn
than Pascal. It is very easy to learn. No surprise since that is what it
was designed for.

Arne