[Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?

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Wed Nov 2 20:41:36 EDT 2022


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> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj
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> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?
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> On 11/2/2022 4:06 PM, IanD wrote:
> > The IBM Mainframes are seeing expansion where I work
> 
> IBM mainframe sales has been falling for decades. Not dramatically but
> consistently. Or to be more correct: a consistent downwards trend with
lots
> of cycles correlating to model releases.
> 
> But different companies chose different strategies. Some companies move
> off their mainframe(s). Some reduce usage of their mainframe(s).
> Some keep usage of their mainframe(s). It does not surprise me that some
> increase usage of their mainframe(s).
> 
> > Security is seen as paramount and being able to wrap up whole
> > applications under a single framework in terms of security is seen as
> > a huge advantage
> >
> > We are seeing certain applications being moved off other platforms and
> > back onto the Mainframes, especially anything pertaining to data
> > transfers and external interface exposure
> >
> > I can't see VMS competing in this space, IBM really has done a good
> > sales job on the security side even down to enabling security aspects
> > on their CPU's that will offload certain operations to hardware for
> > increased protections in flight (good sales pitch no doubt)
> 
> IBM has done a way better job with z/OS than HP/HPE did with VMS.
> 
> > I would have thought VMS could leverage it's historical reputation in
> > security to give it an advantage against Linux at least, but I'm not
> > convinced it has done enough to ensure it's up to date in the modern
> > security landscape and it really needs to make sure it has it's ducks
> > all in a row and then some because any failure in the security arena
> > could/would end VMS chances of making a comeback
> 
> VMS definitely has some catching up to do.
> 
> Arne
> 

Oct 24/22 analysis of IBM, mainframes and revenue streams:
<https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/24/the-ever-reddening-revenue-streams-
of-big-blue/>

Interesting extract:
"But don’t get the wrong idea. For IBM, hybrid is the next platform, not Red
Hat. There will come a day, perhaps, when the Red Hat platform contributes
as much revenue – and maybe even the same profit – as the two enterprise
system families that have defined IBM for most of its history. But rest
assured: When we are all dead and buried, there will still be mainframes and
Power Systems running mission critical, back-end systems deep in the bowels
of tens of thousands of companies worldwide. As it is, there are about
165,000 of them today, and they spend a premium price for a premium product
that they know how to make sit up and bark as well as any hyperscaler knows
how to make a cluster hum. At the prices IBM charges for its systems –
particularly mainframes – they have to run them at 99.5 percent utilization.
And with mainframes, they do, which is an amazing thing you never hear about
RISC/Unix servers or clusters."

Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com





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