[Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?
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Wed Nov 2 20:41:36 EDT 2022
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> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?
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> On 11/2/2022 4:06 PM, IanD wrote:
> > The IBM Mainframes are seeing expansion where I work
>
> IBM mainframe sales has been falling for decades. Not dramatically but
> consistently. Or to be more correct: a consistent downwards trend with
lots
> of cycles correlating to model releases.
>
> But different companies chose different strategies. Some companies move
> off their mainframe(s). Some reduce usage of their mainframe(s).
> Some keep usage of their mainframe(s). It does not surprise me that some
> increase usage of their mainframe(s).
>
> > Security is seen as paramount and being able to wrap up whole
> > applications under a single framework in terms of security is seen as
> > a huge advantage
> >
> > We are seeing certain applications being moved off other platforms and
> > back onto the Mainframes, especially anything pertaining to data
> > transfers and external interface exposure
> >
> > I can't see VMS competing in this space, IBM really has done a good
> > sales job on the security side even down to enabling security aspects
> > on their CPU's that will offload certain operations to hardware for
> > increased protections in flight (good sales pitch no doubt)
>
> IBM has done a way better job with z/OS than HP/HPE did with VMS.
>
> > I would have thought VMS could leverage it's historical reputation in
> > security to give it an advantage against Linux at least, but I'm not
> > convinced it has done enough to ensure it's up to date in the modern
> > security landscape and it really needs to make sure it has it's ducks
> > all in a row and then some because any failure in the security arena
> > could/would end VMS chances of making a comeback
>
> VMS definitely has some catching up to do.
>
> Arne
>
Oct 24/22 analysis of IBM, mainframes and revenue streams:
<https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/24/the-ever-reddening-revenue-streams-
of-big-blue/>
Interesting extract:
"But dont get the wrong idea. For IBM, hybrid is the next platform, not Red
Hat. There will come a day, perhaps, when the Red Hat platform contributes
as much revenue and maybe even the same profit as the two enterprise
system families that have defined IBM for most of its history. But rest
assured: When we are all dead and buried, there will still be mainframes and
Power Systems running mission critical, back-end systems deep in the bowels
of tens of thousands of companies worldwide. As it is, there are about
165,000 of them today, and they spend a premium price for a premium product
that they know how to make sit up and bark as well as any hyperscaler knows
how to make a cluster hum. At the prices IBM charges for its systems
particularly mainframes they have to run them at 99.5 percent utilization.
And with mainframes, they do, which is an amazing thing you never hear about
RISC/Unix servers or clusters."
Regards,
Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com
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