[Info-vax] The real problem that needs solving to grow VMS

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> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj
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> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2022 9:28 PM
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> Cc: Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] The real problem that needs solving to grow VMS
> 
> On 11/3/2022 2:35 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
> > In article <tjubrr$17lrh$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
> > <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/2/2022 1:11 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
> >>> In article <tjrk05$qlu5$3 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
> >>> <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> >>>> [snip]
> >>>> The best tool for the job is the overriding criteria.
> >>>
> >>> And under what circumstances is VMS the right tool for the job for a
> >>> new installation?  I can't think of any.
> >>
> >> You misunderstand.
> >
> > Maybe, or did you ignore the question?
> >
> >> The "right tool" would be the apps that the user needs.
> >
> > Ok. So under what circumstances are "the apps" that the user needs for
> > a new installation available under VMS and nothing else?
> >
> >> OS doesn't matter, unless it is required for the "right tool".
> >
> > Bluntly, I don't believe you.  There's a lot of OS dependency baked
> > into IT management.  For example, how do we do backups for bare-metal
> > DR?
> 
> Obviously there are requirements for OS and HW.
> 
> Everybody will want:
> - some level of reliability
> - some level of security
> - some level of support
> - a reasonable cost
> - backup capability
> - etc.
> 
> Most will have several additional requirements:
> - must run in VMWare ESXi
> - must run in AWS/Azure/GCP
> - must work with some enterprise operation monitoring solution
> - must work with some SIEM system
> - etc.
> 
> But these are all pass/fail.
> 
> There are a number of requirements that need a pass grade.
> 
> But there are no extra points for coming in above pass.
> 
> This is the reason why major DCL enhancements are not likely to happen.
> Sure DCL could use some enhancements, but they will not sell a single
extra
> VMS license.
> 
> Arne

While the last 15-20 years was about reducing HW costs, imho, the next 15-20
years will be about reducing SW costs.

Hence, the very high costs for traditional products like VMware, Oracle, MS
SQL etc. are now under strategic reviews by many large companies. 

I also think the traditional model of requiring a different server for each
business application and/or multiple tiers is going to change as well, but
that is a different discussion.

One previous DC migration engagement I did about 4 years back involved a
large Cust who had a traditional Oracle DB/middleware environment (on Oracle
Solaris btw) for their mission critical environment. While our engagement
was restricted to transition, not transformation, we did learn that their
next gen platform they were developing on was alternate Linux/much cheaper
DB/middleware products.

In the words of one of their senior app architects "we just could no longer
continue with the old Oracle platform where every new feature or add-on
ended with the question "how many cores will that require?""

For those not familiar with Oracle, their DB core licensing is likely the
most expensive in the IT industry. List pricing (ok, few pay list prices and
have varying degrees of discounts) is $47K per server core.

My point is that just because a product is well established today, like all
past changes in the IT industry, it does not mean their market position is
not going to change in the future.

Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com







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