[Info-vax] VMS and security

kemain.nospam at gmail.com kemain.nospam at gmail.com
Mon Nov 7 20:30:23 EST 2022


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> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Simon Clubley
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> Cc: Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
> Subject: [Info-vax] VMS and security
> 
> On 2022-11-02, IanD <iloveopenvms at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would have thought VMS could leverage it's historical reputation in
> > security to give it an advantage against Linux at least, but I'm not
> > convinced it has done enough to ensure it's up to date in the modern
> > security landscape and it really needs to make sure it has it's ducks
> > all in a row and then some because any failure in the security arena
> > could/would end VMS chances of making a comeback
> 
> Unfortunately, the idea of VMS security somehow being comparable to
> today's expected security standards is utterly delusional.
> 
> Even Linux is _far_ in advance of what VMS offers.
> 
> For example, Linux has mandatory access controls and VMS is still stuck
back
> in the DAC world.
> 
> There's no ASLR/KASLR support on VMS.
> 
> There's nothing like the Unix chroot jails on VMS.
> 
> Compiler protections in generated code has been lacking on VMS compared
> to what is available elsewhere, but John in recent years has started
looking at
> getting comparable protections in the VMS compilers, when it comes to
> generating code, that currently exist elsewhere.
> 
> Back in the 1980s/early 1990s, VMS was a leader in security and it has
proudly
> remained there while the rest of the world has moved on.
> 
> Simon.
> 

For those looking for additional security than what the base OpenVMS OS
provides, they can always add 3rd party products like those from
PointSecure.

Reference: System Detective
<https://pointsecure.com/products/system-detective/>


Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com






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