[Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?

[Craig A. Berry]

On 11/11/22 6:37 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 11/10/2022 7:19 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>> In article <tkk3rr$em$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
>> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>> Consider the fact that the user submitting the file might not have 
>>>> write
>>>> permission to the current directory or to the directory where the
>>>> procedure is located, but very probably does to SYS$LOGIN.
>>>
>>> Not having write access to the dir must be a special case.
>>
>> I don't know.  Certainly there are environments where there is some
>> official software or whatever where normal users are not allowed to
>> write.  Think SYS$SYSTEM.  Should every user have access there?  Think
>> of a company's software package in some directory.  Same thing.
> 
> I am not saying that such cases does not exist - I am just saying that
> they must be rare.

Not at all.  It's actually the most common use case in my experience.

> I don't expect many users to SUBMIT COM files residing in
> SYS$SYSTEM.

More likely SYS$MANAGER or a site-specific common directory, but rarely
a directory to which all users have write access.

> And the two most common cases for software packages must be
> system wide install with any batch job started by SYSTEM and
> user installs in the users dir tree started by that user.
> Leaving only the more unusual cases.

What you consider unusual is actually all I've ever seen in a production
environment.  And I've seen lots of non-system users submitting batch
jobs from system or site directories to which they do not have write access.