[Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?

Phillip Helbig undress to reply helbig at asclothestro.multivax.de
Sat Nov 12 09:43:06 EST 2022


In article <tkn3nv$13e5ä4 at dont-email.me>, "Craig A. Berry"
<craigberry at nospam.mac.com> writes: 

> >>>> Consider the fact that the user submitting the file might not have 
> >>>> write
> >>>> permission to the current directory or to the directory where the
> >>>> procedure is located, but very probably does to SYS$LOGIN.
> >>>
> >>> Not having write access to the dir must be a special case.
> >>
> >> I don't know.  Certainly there are environments where there is some
> >> official software or whatever where normal users are not allowed to
> >> write.  Think SYS$SYSTEM.  Should every user have access there?  Think
> >> of a company's software package in some directory.  Same thing.
> > 
> > I am not saying that such cases does not exist - I am just saying that
> > they must be rare.
> 
> Not at all.  It's actually the most common use case in my experience.
> 
> > I don't expect many users to SUBMIT COM files residing in
> > SYS$SYSTEM.
> 
> More likely SYS$MANAGER or a site-specific common directory, but rarely
> a directory to which all users have write access.
> 
> > And the two most common cases for software packages must be
> > system wide install with any batch job started by SYSTEM and
> > user installs in the users dir tree started by that user.
> > Leaving only the more unusual cases.
> 
> What you consider unusual is actually all I've ever seen in a production
> environment.  And I've seen lots of non-system users submitting batch
> jobs from system or site directories to which they do not have write access.

Right.




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