[Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?
Arne Vajhøj
arne at vajhoej.dk
Wed Nov 16 19:39:59 EST 2022
On 11/15/2022 8:52 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2022 7:40 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/10/2022 9:51 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>>>> As software becomes more and more expensive, I think the need to have an
>>>>>> efficient operating system that provides database features in the kernel
>>>>>> becomes more important.
>>>>>
>>>>> Database in the actual OS kernel or just database shipping with the
>>>>> OS distribution?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not uncommon to put application functionality in the
>>>>> kernel today, but I am not keen on the idea.
>>>>
>>>> I think in the kernel. Maybe not in the top ring, but in a ring below it.
>>>> I want fast database access, I want rapid transaction turnover, I don't care
>>>> necessarily about realtime operation or any direct UI other than for
>>>> administration, or ever specifically making deadline. I'm thinking of a
>>>> specialized database engine.
>>>
>>> I don't think I have ever heard about that for database.
>>
>> Rdb ? :-)
>
> RDB is a start, and RDB is about as tight integration as you can get today.
> It was state of the art in the 1980s and allowed better database performance
> than anything else on comparable hardware.
>
> I'd like to see that sort of design moved forward into the 21st century with
> even tighter integration, maybe a microkernel with very low overhead, and a
> special purpose system that does nothing but serve databases out.
>
> We already have some special purpose systems that do nothing but serve web
> pages out but for the most part the web frontend can be distributed so there
> is little need for the ultimate performance on a single box. For database
> use there is.
Ways to do databases distributed / active-active cluster has been found.
Oracle RAC, DB2 Purescale, ASE Cluster Edition, MySQL Cluster,
DB2 Warehouse Edition, rqlite, Cassandra, HBase, MongoDB, Voldemort
etc..
Arne
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