[Info-vax] VMS in the real world of 2022

Alexander Schreiber als at usenet.thangorodrim.de
Thu Sep 1 16:12:55 EDT 2022


Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> On 8/24/2022 1:15 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2022-08-24, Jan-Erik Söderholm <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:
>>> Den 2022-08-24 kl. 17:11, skrev Dave Froble:
>>>
>>>>> Good luck finding some who are familiar with VMS.
>>>>
>>>> Then don't hire any ...
>>>
>>> Why are you so fixed with this "hiring" of auditors.
>>>
>>> In most cases it is not you that is audited that hires the auditors.
>>> It is your customer, your insurance company or maybe some state agency.
>>>
>>
>> This is what David seems unwilling to understand (deliberately?) even
>> though it has been explained to him multiple times.
>>
>> In the vast majority of cases, you don't have any control or authority
>> over the auditors who just turned up to audit your systems and procedures.
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>
> Would not opening the door be any such control?

You can always tell the auditors to go away, assuming you are willing
to accept the consequences (e.g. no longer selling in specific markets
or to specific customers).

> If deciding to open the door, should not those being audited demand some 
> control, including demanding competence?

Depending on exactly what the purpose of the audit is, knowledge of
the OS used on your systems might not be relevant. 

And it tends to be in the best interest of whoever hired the auditors
that said auditors be competent, lest their incompetence blows up
into their customers face (e.g. hiring a financial auditing firm
known for their book cooking skills is _very_ likely to attract
the attention of the appropriate financial regulator).

Kind regards,
           Alex.
-- 
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 looks like work."                                      -- Thomas A. Edison



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