[Info-vax] Alpha Community licenes.

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 9/18/22 17:37, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> In article <jopd9tFf57pU1 at mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> On 9/18/22 11:19, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <jooqruFccnfU1 at mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
>>> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> That's probably because most serious VMS users moved out of the 80's
>>>> a long time ago.  Being as VMS has apparently given up on the desktop
>>>> permanently what would you expect most VMS users to be using on their
>>>> desktop?
>>>
>>> If you are using VMS, it doesn't have to be on your desktop, but it
>>> could be.
>>
>> Maybe if your still running a VAX.  I thought VSI said "No desktop"?
> 
> Some VAXes will fit on a desktop.  Some Alphas.  Perhaps some Itaniums.
> Presumably some x86.

I think everyone knows that the term desktop does not refer to the
physical size of the box.

> 
> What does "desktop" mean?  If it means using Microsoft products, then of
> course VMS on the desktop or the desktop on VMS makes no sense.  If it
> means literally on the desk then of course often no problem.  If it
> means use it for email, reading usenet, etc., then I prefer to do that
> on VMS than to any other platform.

It means the ability to do the things that people today do from their
desktop.  Word Processing, Spreadsheet, yes, email and the web.  It
does not mean using Microsoft products.  I have to basic desktops I
use every day.  One is Linux and one is Windows.  And even on the
Windows box I use no Microsoft products other than the OS that came
with the box when I got it.

> 
> VSI has said that they will support the on-chip graphics, so presumably
> one can continue to run DECterms, CDE, whatever.

Which still won't allow any current technology applications like a
real web browser.

> 
> Back to the license stuff.  They have a file which is used on VMS which
> was zipped.  Why not zip it on VMS?  Or at least pretend to be a
> customer and test whatever they send out before sending it out.

Funny, I had no problem unzipping it or looking at the contents.
And when the time comes to install it on a VMS system cut and paste
will work just fine.  Actually, a lot better than it used to as
the LP PAK used to be more than a dozen pages long and now appears
to be a single license.

bill