[Info-vax] the document describing the system service transfer vector

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 9/20/22 14:32, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 9/20/2022 2:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 9/20/22 12:09, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <jou0clF6c71U1 at mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
>>> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> In Ken Olsen's day VMS only ran on proprietary DEC hardware which
>>>> meant DEC would have had to make the desktop hardware as well as
>>>> the software.  That's not true today.  Maybe it's time to re-look
>>>> at the situation with an eye towards a much more secure desktop
>>>> option.  especially when one considers that the majority of attacks
>>>> start at the desktop.   :-)
>>>
>>> Right.  I just have to convince Elon to pay for a modern web browser for
>>> VMS.
>>
>> Unless things have changed modern web browsers are available
>> Open Source.  All it would take was someone who knew VMS
>> development to do the port.  After, of course, someone did
>> a port of a modern version of X11 (also opensource).  :-)
> 
> It would probably be hard to find a 100% closed source web
> browser today.
> 
> :-)
> 
> But they are pretty big.
> 
> It is more than the browser and X.
> 
> It would need GTK+ or Qt on top of X.
> 
> It would need a JavaScript engine.
> 
> It would need uptodate versions of a bunch of graphic
> and video libraries.
> 
> 25 years ago Mosaic and Lynx on VMS was sort of uptodate.
> 
> But since then the size of web browsers has increased
> by a factor 10 or more and the willingness in VMS
> community to work on open source has decreased by
> a factor 10 or more.
> 
> I don't think it is realistic.
> 

Most people in the industry today don't think the existence of VMS is
realistic, but here we are.

I don't expect to see it happen, but I would really be happy if it did.

bill