[Info-vax] macOS Terminal app. Numeric keypad fails for EDT.

alanfe...@gmail.com alanfeldman48 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 21 03:43:34 EDT 2022


On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 8:43:06 PM UTC-4, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
> On 9/20/2022 2:28 PM, alanfe... at gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > Am I the only one in the newsgroup that uses a Mac to access an OpenVMS box? 
> >
> I'm on a Mac and have used it for years and years. But I have a MacPro 2009 and I'm stuck at Mojave. I don't use Apple's Terminal. I use Em-Tec's ZOC. It cost me $80 back when and another $29 to upgrade about 6 years later but worth it. I also use a Matias Tactile Pro 4 (and Quiet Pro) Mac keyboard that has the proper # of keys on it's keypad. I've also used iTerm and iTerm2 over the years but I prefer ZOC. Works just dandy with all my VMS needs from DEC VAX/VMS 5.5 to VSI OpenVMS V8.4-2L1 

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I was on Mojave for years. Kept on it so that I could continue using QuickTime 7 Pro. Finally got a new Mac for various reasons, including lack of support, and the risk of not finding parts! I also have a Matias Tactile Pro (but I think it's feel is too hard. Maybe the quiet one is better. I hear the IBM something-or-other has the best feel, but how to get one and how to make it work on the Mac and with the numeric keypad missing a key, etc.)

Terminal comes with the Mac and it works fine. I see no reason to spend money on others. Oh, Terminal wasn't so good until the key customizations were good enough to map the top row of the numeric keypad. I forget when that happened. Mr. Schweda pointed that out years ago, I think. Anyway, everything works great now. Still going through "growing pains" from the upgrade, though. Apple doesn't give a shi_ about backward-compatibility, and VMS cares a little too much! We still have that dumb CLI/terminal/whatever user interface (can't delete after wrap-around, etc.)

Hey, the keyboard that comes with the Mac also has the full numeric keypad, which PC's don't. I got the Matias because I hated the Mac keyboard for other reasons. The new one has the finger ID bit. I can keep that on the side for that!

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> https://www.emtec.com/zoc/index.html 
> http://matias.ca/tactilepro4/ 
> http://matias.ca/tactilepro4/viewer/?p=2 
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> -- 
> John H. Reinhardt

Alan Feldman



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