[Info-vax] macOS Terminal app. Numeric keypad fails for EDT.

alanfe...@gmail.com alanfeldman48 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 21 13:45:15 EDT 2022


On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 7:04:23 AM UTC-4, VAXman- wrote:
> In article <fc97f4a2-6e47-4dc8... at googlegroups.com>, "alanfe... at gmail.com" <alanfe... at gmail.com> writes: 
> >Got my new Mac. Old one was running Mojave. Terminal on EISNER works fine f= 
> >or editing. My new Mac is running Monterey. I run Terminal, open a file in = 
> >EDT, and the numbers on the numeric keypad do nothing. They also do nothing= 
> > at a DCL prompt. Also, the PF1-4 keys work from F1-F4, and F12 is BEGINNIN= 
> >G OF LINE. 
> > 
> >Is there some secret setting I'm missing? Or do I need a 3rd-party app? And=
> > if so, can anyone here recommend one? Thanks!
> I'm still on Big Sewer and regretting ever allowing that update. 
> 
> I never really cared for the Terminal app. It functions when in a pinch but I 
> have been using iTerm/iTerm2 for years. When I need to, I "$ CREATE/TERMINAL" 
> because I have XQuartz installed. The keyboard has never been any problem but 
> now that you've reported this, there's another reason to never upgrade again. 
> 
> -- 
> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG 
> 
> I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

Yeah, macOS upgrades always seem to cause something cool to break or go bye-bye. But my internal hard drive died, not easy to replace, the machine is 7 years old, meaning Apple doesn't make parts for it anymore and will refuse to service it even for money, and the new M1 chip should definitely come in handy with NeatVideo noise reduction in my movies! (Final Cut has its own Noise Reduction function (which, IIRC, is also quite slow), but it doesn't work that well, and you can't fully turn off the sharpness setting, which seems to be what makes the result look a little grungy.)

VAXMAN, since you have Big Sur (uh, Big Sewer), do you have the same problem where ALL the shortcuts in the drop-down menus from the menu bar are all grayed out? At first I thought it was a bug and their possibly non-existent QA department was asleep at the wheel. Then, on the Apple "Support Communities" board, someone said it was by design. Say what? That is so hard to believe, I ruled it out without even consciously thinking about it. I asked why anyone would want it that way. The poster responded, Why would anyone not want it that way? A troll? An idiot? In order to stay in the good graces of the Apple police, I pretended it was a serious statement and proceeded to explain how stupid it is.

Someone else said it might be as old as Big Sur. So Sir, are ALL the shortcuts -- and I do mean including the active ones where the English part isn't grayed out -- grayed out? Or was that introduced in Catalina or Monterey, if you happen to know?

BTW, Terminal has worked fine for me, once they finally allowed me to map Clear, =, /, and * to the PFs. Actually, there is one problem: EDT (and I would guess other editors -- I should try them!) full screen mode wipes out part of the history buffer! Other than that, I've customized the font and am pretty happy with it. It's free and it's already there.

BTW, "Big Sewer" is definitely funnier than "WEENdoze."



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