[Info-vax] Alpha Community licenes.

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 9/22/22 04:29, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2022-09-21 14:26, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2022-09-21, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>>> On 2022-09-20 20:45, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> BTW, you do need a proper keyboard mapping script unfortunately, but
>>>> I find xterm to be quite usable when talking to VMS systems and when
>>>> using the application keypad mode generally.
>>>
>>> I agree in principle, but am constantly confused about people saying
>>> they need to do all kind of keyboard mapping scripts with xterm.
>>>
>>> I've been using xterm for over 30 years, and I've never had to do that,
>>> and been using it against VMS and RSX all the time, and *all* keys work
>>> as you would expect. Both on old sparc stations, DECstations as well as
>>> my MacBook Pro's that I use these days. Haven't even changed anything in
>>> my configuration for the last 20 years or so. Same stuff still works the
>>> same way across the different platforms.
>>>
>>
>> PF1 to PF4 mapping. Are they on F1 to F4 or are they on the top row of
>> the numeric keypad ?
> 
> F1 to F4, since the top row of the numeric keypad have keys that are 
> also on the DEC numeric keypad which I also want. Can't have it both 
> ways. The DEC numeric keypad have more keys than any PC or Apple 
> keyboard have.
> 
>> Do you use application keypad mode ?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Do you use the editing keys between the main keyboard and the numeric 
>> keypad?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> I had problems with all of these under Linux until I used a keyboard 
>> mapping
>> script and I have continued to use the same setup over the years.
> 
> All working as well as I could ever wish or expect. And yeah, I even use 
> EDT from time to time, all behaving nicely. No mapping scripts ever used.
> 
> But it took some time to figure out how to actually setup xterm 
> correctly. But I did that a long time ago, and once it was figured out, 
> I've never had to do it again.


I haven't tried using xterm with VMS since I got rid of my last Sparc-3.
Never had any luck with the keypad.  Found alternates and never looked
back.  Usually ran DECWindows to an X-Terminal (I still have a VXT2000
but it is in need of new electrolytics) so it was really a non-issue
anyway.  Today it is usually just Putty to the console port but my VMS
usage is greatly reduced from the good old days.

bill