[Info-vax] Python for x86?

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2023-04-13 kl. 15:24, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
> On 4/13/2023 8:26 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2023-04-13, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2023 6:44 AM, Neil Rieck wrote:
>>>> And although python is used to do a lot of admin scripting on Linux
>>>> platforms (tools like "yum" and "firewall-cmd" are written in
>>>> python), python does a really good job supporting server-side
>>>> scripting under apache cgi-bin. I don't know how this is possible,
>>>> but python programs are faster than compiled DEC-BASIC programs
>>>> started via apache.
>>>
>>> That is unexpected. If both are run via CGI mechanism then
>>> script activation should be the same. And compiled code should be
>>> faster than interpreted code. And if libraries used are also the
>>> same then it is a mystery.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe. Maybe not. Based purely on some comments from people here who
>> know/use DEC Basic, it's quite possible that DEC Basic has a RTL which
>> imposes some serious runtime overheads.
> 
> VMS Basic is a language with a high level of abstraction
> so more "happens under the hood" than in C/Fortran/Cobol.
> 
> There are some overhead due to that.
> 
> Obvious example is strings. VMS Basic use dynamic
> strings. The RTL does some work there.
> 
> But Python is even more high level and does similar
> work - including the equivalent of dynamic strings.
> 
> But it is still interpreted (for standard Python
> implementation) while VMS Basic get compiled.
> 
> Only thing in Pythons favor is that there must
> be spent 1000 times more effort optimizing Python
> libraries than optimizing VMS Basic RTL.
> 
> Arne
> 
> 

Are my post about standard-CGI vs. "loadable modules" lost?