[Info-vax] VSI roadmap

[bill]

On 8/21/2023 3:45 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
> On 21/08/2023 18:29, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2023-08-21, Chris Townley <news at cct-net.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 21/08/2023 13:23, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2023-08-18, ultr... at gmail.com <ultradwc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> THEN YOU MAKE SURE SYNERGY PORTS THEIR DIBOL LANGUAGE ALONG WITH 
>>>>> SQL CONNECT WHICH CONNECTS TO ORACLE
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.synergex.com/products-connectivity-open-source/
>>>>
>>>> Two things Bob:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Porting Dibol to x86-64 VMS does nothing to solve the problems
>>>> discussed here.
>>>>
>>>> 2) If Synergex have decided not to port to x86-64 VMS (based on your
>>>> comments) then it might mean they no longer have enough VMS users to
>>>> justify the port.
>>>>
>>>> In that case, you are looking at moving your Dibol code over to another
>>>> platform such as Linux. This is a problem that (for example) Ada users
>>>> have had to deal with as there will not be an Ada compiler for 
>>>> x86-64 VMS.
>>>>
>>>> Simon.
>>>
>>> unless of course there comes an opensource port?
>>>
>>
>> That will not happen. That simply will not happen.
>>
>> Not only has the language been massively extended since the DEC days,
>> the language itself is only one part of a Synergex toolkit, which
>> includes, among other things, a GUI/character cell forms environment
>> integrated into Synergex Dibol user source code that would also need
>> to be duplicated.
>>
>> IOW, this is no longer DEC ANSI DIBOL we are talking about.
>>
>> Try to imagine the effort involved with implementing DEC Basic (or 
>> similar)
>> on Linux and then imagine several times that amount of work. That's the
>> amount of effort (at an absolute minimum) we are talking about here.
>>
>> And this is based on my last knowledge of the language from a decade or
>> so ago before I changed jobs. Goodness knows how much else has been added
>> since then.
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>> PS: BTW Bob, you may wish to consider an upgrade to a TTY Model 43.
>> They have a much nicer keyboard than the ASR 33 and also support 
>> lowercase.
>>
> 
> Actually I was thinking of ADA
> 

I would expect that most Ada users today cannot work with a non-
validated compiler.  I also doubt a compiler without full support
would be usable.  Neither of them come with opensource projects.

bill