[Info-vax] OS implementation languages

Simon Clubley clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Wed Aug 30 09:04:01 EDT 2023


On 2023-08-29, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
> On 2023-08-29 22:27, bill wrote:
>> On 8/29/2023 3:18 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>
>>> What a weird question. VMS in itself don't have any limits. It's all 
>>> always just about the hardware.
>> 
>> Not really.  VMS has always been notoriously slow with I/O and I assume
>> that's what Simon was hinting at.
>
> So? It just means that other systems might achieve higher rate of I/O 
> throughput than VMS on a specific piece of hardware. Nothing prevents me 
> from throwing faster hardware on the problem until I saturate the 
> network, no matter which OS I'm using.
>

Why would you waste serious money on extra hardware to overcome OS
limitations instead of just using a more efficient OS for the task at hand ?

>>> Some software might be able to squeeze more out of the same hardware, 
>>> but just spin up faster hardware, and you'll get higher throughput. 
>>> But any system will basically just be limited by the speed of the 
>>> network hardware, if that item is fixed. You can't go above that. But 
>>> there are no reasons why you wouldn't be able to get to that point.
>> 
>> You are forgetting the overhead of the drivers and any underlying O/S
>> code that has to be called to do it.
>
> Irrelevant. That just means I need to throw some more hardware on the 
> problem. Not that the OS somehow prevents me from achieving a higher 
> throughput.
>

Why would you waste serious money on extra hardware to overcome OS
limitations instead of just using a more efficient OS for the task at hand ?

>>> These are the kind of questions that sometimes make me wonder if you 
>>> know anything at all about computers. But then you do some other posts 
>>> which clearly demonstrate that you do understand some stuff.
>> 
>> I think it was just a subtle poke in the ribs for VMS.
>
> I think it was a display of complete ignorance on behalf of Simon. 
> Possibly just not thinking before writing. Who knows...?
>

That's seriously rich coming from you Johnny. Seriously rich.

Simon.

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