[Info-vax] OS implementation languages

[Dave Froble]

On 8/30/2023 9:04 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2023-08-29, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>> On 2023-08-29 22:27, bill wrote:
>>> On 8/29/2023 3:18 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What a weird question. VMS in itself don't have any limits. It's all
>>>> always just about the hardware.
>>>
>>> Not really.  VMS has always been notoriously slow with I/O and I assume
>>> that's what Simon was hinting at.
>>
>> So? It just means that other systems might achieve higher rate of I/O
>> throughput than VMS on a specific piece of hardware. Nothing prevents me
>> from throwing faster hardware on the problem until I saturate the
>> network, no matter which OS I'm using.
>>
>
> Why would you waste serious money on extra hardware to overcome OS
> limitations instead of just using a more efficient OS for the task at hand ?
>
>>>> Some software might be able to squeeze more out of the same hardware,
>>>> but just spin up faster hardware, and you'll get higher throughput.
>>>> But any system will basically just be limited by the speed of the
>>>> network hardware, if that item is fixed. You can't go above that. But
>>>> there are no reasons why you wouldn't be able to get to that point.
>>>
>>> You are forgetting the overhead of the drivers and any underlying O/S
>>> code that has to be called to do it.
>>
>> Irrelevant. That just means I need to throw some more hardware on the
>> problem. Not that the OS somehow prevents me from achieving a higher
>> throughput.
>>
>
> Why would you waste serious money on extra hardware to overcome OS
> limitations instead of just using a more efficient OS for the task at hand ?

Well, that sort of depends upon the "task at hand", doesn't it?

Perhaps the OS has other features one might be depending upon.

>>>> These are the kind of questions that sometimes make me wonder if you
>>>> know anything at all about computers. But then you do some other posts
>>>> which clearly demonstrate that you do understand some stuff.
>>>
>>> I think it was just a subtle poke in the ribs for VMS.
>>
>> I think it was a display of complete ignorance on behalf of Simon.
>> Possibly just not thinking before writing. Who knows...?

Here now, what's this?  I'm officially in charge of poking fun at Simon.  Are 
you usurping my job?

> That's seriously rich coming from you Johnny. Seriously rich.

You tell him Simon ...

:-)

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