[Info-vax] Now you have way more things to worry about

[David Turner]

Pls excuse spelling - tired and friday

On 7/7/2023 9:37 PM, David Turner wrote:
> I know that when I sell to Integrity servers and Alphaservers into 
> sensitive (GOV and Intl GOV) sites,considering  things like VMWARE or 
> VirtualBox or emulatos- these are considered middleware, and t'is  a 
> Grand Non Non to GOV customers unless tested and proven for years 
> prior to purchase.
> And even then, I am sure certain sensitive environments would not even 
> consider something like OPenVMS not running natively.
> ...  I know some are using emulators in very specific environments, 
> but...
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> On 7/7/2023 2:49 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 7/7/2023 2:34 PM, Pizza RAC wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 10:29:36 AM UTC-4, David Turner wrote:
>>>> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/vmware-fixes-vrealize-bug-that-let-attackers-run-code-as-root/ 
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>>>> So you have exploits that affect the x86 EFI
>>>> Then you have exploits that hit VMWare
>>>> So before you even run OpenVMS you have two major issues to be 
>>>> concerned about.
>>>>
>>>> Is VSI ever going native X86 OpenVMS (on Proliant DL380 G10?)or it 
>>>> is still a "layered" piece of cheesecake?
>>>
>>> That is what I have been asking them for months ...
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>> Answers has been given.
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>> The latest I saw was here:
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>> https://forum.vmssoftware.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=8689
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>> <quote>
>> We have no current plans to support x86 VMS on bare metal. Would we 
>> if someone offered us a very large pile of money? Maybe, but it would 
>> have to be a very unique situation.
>> </quote>
>>
>> Which does not sound promising for VMS x86-64 support for
>> physical server.
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>> I still hope that they eventually will decide to support one server
>> for those that has a need for physical.
>>
>> There is also a thread for people that despite it not being supported
>> actually runs it on physical:
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>> https://forum.vmssoftware.com/viewtopic.php?t=8621
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>> so if support does not matter then it is possible.
>>
>> Arne
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