[Info-vax] Now you have way more things to worry about

[Dave Froble]

On 7/8/2023 4:45 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 7/7/2023 9:37 PM, David Turner wrote:
>> I know that when I sell to Integrity servers and Alphaservers into sensitive
>> (GOV and Intl GOV) sites,considering  things like VMWARE or VirtualBox or
>> emulatos- these are considered middleware, and t'is  a Grand Non Non to GOV
>> customers unless tested and proven for years prior to purchase.
>> And even then, I am sure certain sensitive environments would not even
>> consider something like OPenVMS not running natively.
>> ...  I know some are using emulators in very specific environments, but...
>
> The usual definition of middleware is as in this model:
>
> application
> middleware
> OS
> HW
>
> Virtualization software does not seem to fit that models
> definition of middleware at all.
>
> "tested and proven for years" would not be a problem for
> VMWare ESXi. The last 20 years there has probably been more
> server OS instances running in a VM on ESXi than on
> physical HW.

If a particular customer has a "problem" using any VM, then for that customer, 
it is an issue.  Perhaps a "no-go" issue.

> The majority of Linux and Windows instances are running in VM's.
> It seems very likely that the majority of VMS instances would be
> running in VM's.

Meaningless to any specific customer.

> Being able to run in standard VM's like ESXI, Hyper-V or KVM
> is probably one of the biggest selling points for VMS x86-64.
> Now VMS actually fits into the corporate virtualization
> standards.
>
> My concern is that majority <> all. It seems likely to me
> that some VMS users may not want to use VM's. Probably a small
> share. But to pick a random number 5% is also some users.

Ok, why don't I want to use a VM?  I don't want to learn how to run a VM.  One 
more thing than I want to do.  I'll use one if I have to.  But first choice 
would be not to.  Don't tell me it's easy.  Don't care.

I understand that VSI is listening to the "paying customers", and, I understand 
that VSI doesn't need the hassle of writing and supporting a bunch of device 
drivers.

Be nice if devices presented a common interface, thus one interface to write to.

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