[Info-vax] Now you have way more things to worry about

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On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 11:07:04 AM UTC-4, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 7/10/2023 9:04 AM, abrsvc wrote: 
> > 
> >>>> Then you have exploits that hit VMWare 
> >> The same problem exists for Alpha emulators, even though it's an emulator 
> >> and not virtualisation software. Also not probed anywhere near as much as 
> >> the mainstream products. 
> > 
> > I can agree with Simon for a change... :) 
> > 
> > Most of the problems I have seen in terms of "break-ins" have been at the host OS level and not problems with the emulators. 
> > I know of one client that has had multiple intrusions with NO impact on the OpenVMS system itself other than being inaccessible because of the network. OpenVMS itself was not affected at all. I see the same issue with the VMs. OpenVMS is not the problem here, only the underlying host. 
> > 
> > Dan 
> >
> One of our customers got hit with a ransomware attack. Their WEENDOZE systems 
> were toasted. Their VMS system was not touched. 
> 
> Now, yeah, lots of business now depends upon WEENDOZE systems. But, VMS ran 
> their core business, and while annoyed by the loss on the WEENDOZE systems, the 
> company was able to continue to receive orders and ship product. 
> 
> Maybe some may see things differently, but, to me, there is a vast difference 
> between being annoyed, and losing the capability to continue to run the 
> business. Consider the ramifications of losing all Accounts Receivable data. 
> Cant collect money is a major hurt. 
> 
> Not saying VMS cannot be hacked, but, the reality is, they usually are not hacked.
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