[Info-vax] EISNER downtime from 12-JUL-2023 through 17-JUL-2023

[Dave Froble]

On 7/12/2023 12:52 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2023-07-12 17:27, Chris Townley wrote:
>> On 12/07/2023 15:07, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2023-07-12 kl. 15:12, skrev Chris Townley:
>>>> On 12/07/2023 13:30, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 12:21 +0100, John Dallman wrote:
>>>>>>> At least they didn't use US centric dates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The VMS date format, as per the subject line, was first standardised
>>>>>> by the US Department of Defense. They picked it because it isn't
>>>>>> anyone's native format, but everyone can understand it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I work for a British branch of a US-based company that's owned by a
>>>>>> German firm. I use VMS format dates for all official communications,
>>>>>> even though we haven't had VMS running for over twenty years.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's perfect.
>>>>
>>>> That is of course one form of standard UK date. I also regularly use the DEC
>>>> comparison format, aka Japanese date, of YYYY-MM-DD as sortable, and also
>>>> unmistakeable
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which is also the international ISO-8601 standard date/time format.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601.
>>>
>>> Not sure why you call it "Japanese date". Japan is just one of approx.
>>> 50 countries that has adopted ISO-8601 as its national standard.
>>> But there is nothing else ”Japanese” about this format.
>>>
>>> To simplify everything, it would be better to use the ISO-6801 standard.
>>>
>>> ISO-8601 has also been adopted as an US national standard:
>>> ANSI INCITS 30-1997 (R2008) and NIST FIPS PUB 4-2.
>>>
>>> See the link above for further details…
>>>
>>
>> I started using it before ISO-8601 (first published 1988), when it was the
>> Japanese date format.
>
> It was in use in Sweden before that time as well. Just because ISO published a
> document about it don't mean it wasn't in existance and used before then, by
> multiple countries. (I have no idea how long Sweden have been using this format,
> but it feels like forever...)
>
>   Johnny
>

Are we discussing DD-Mon-YYYY or YYYYMMDD ?

RSTS from the beginning used DD-Mon-YY, only 2 digits for the yesr, but same 
format.  That was prior to 1974, not sure how long before.

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