[Info-vax] Time to turn DECUServe into a mixed VMScluster?

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Sat Jun 3 16:12:55 EDT 2023


On 2023-06-02 01:37, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 6/1/2023 6:34 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> On 2023-06-01 14:06, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-01, terry-... at glaver.org <terry-groups at glaver.org> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 6:33:17?PM UTC-4, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>>> If my feeble memory still works, I think that has already been 
>>>>> answered.
>>>>>
>>>>> x86 cluster communications will be modified, and to include Alpha 
>>>>> and/or
>>>>> itanic,
>>>>> a patch for either will be required. No patches for VAX, since VSI 
>>>>> does not
>>>>> have a VAX release to which patches can be provided.
>>>
>>> Correct. If you are going to show off VMS clustering then it has to be
>>> secure clustering, which means the VSI changes and which means no VAX.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As a reminder, the VSI FAQ still says "Clustering of VSI OpenVMS for 
>>>> x86-64
>>>> with VAX/VMS systems is still under investigation at this time." See:
>>>> https://vmssoftware.com/about/v9-qa/
>>>
>>> That will be unencrypted clustering because otherwise VSI would have to
>>> create a clustering compatibillity kit for existing VAX versions, which
>>> they are not allowed to do.
>>
>> Says who?
>>
>> Why would they not be allowed to create any software for VMS for VAX? 
>> I strongly
>> suspect that is an incorrect statement.
>>
>> They cannot issue licenses for VMS for VAX without creating a new 
>> version of
>> VMS, but that have no bearing on the ability to distribute some other 
>> software
>> for VMS on VAX.
>>
>> It would be like saying that noone is allowed to create any new 
>> software for VMS
>> on VAX. Which would be an extremely weird thing to claim.
>>
>>   Johnny
>>
> 
> You may be correct.  Would be nice.  However, we're discussing something 
> tightly coupled with the OS.  A good question for VSI.

I think VSI have made it pretty clear that they don't want to touch any 
VAXen with a 20 foot pole, so I suspect the topic is somewhat moot no 
matter what. :-)

But maybe if someone were to throw enough money at them...

   Johnny




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