[Info-vax] Intel proposal to simplify x86-64

[bill]

On 6/7/2023 8:50 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2023-06-08 01:19, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 6/7/2023 5:36 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-07 11:09, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>>> I must ask (since I have never used TECO).
>>>>
>>>> What is the unique feature of TECO that cannot be done
>>>> with some other tool(s)?
>>>
>>> I don't think there is anything that is that unique.
>>> However, depending on how you use it, you might need a bunch of other 
>>> tools to accomplish the same.
>>>
>>> It obviously is an editor. But it's also a programming language that 
>>> can be twisted into doing a lot of stuff. If you are familiar with 
>>> sed (a Unix tool), it is somewhat similar. But I'd say TECO can do 
>>> more. Obviously the original Emacs was written in TECO. There are 
>>> other editors written in TECO as well. I sometimes use it when I want 
>>> to do somewhat more complex operations over larger text files where 
>>> the changes are a bit more complex than just search and replace.
>>
>> Many editors come with "programming capabilities".
>>
>> If we focus on VMS then EDT is a bit primitive, but
>> EVE not so - TPU is very much a full programming language.
>>
>> I cannot imagine any text manipulation functionality that
>> could not be implemented in TPU in relative clean code.
>>
>> (for those that does not know TPU then it is a procedural
>> language in the "Pascal family" with a bunch of editor
>> builtins)
> 
> I don't think we need to dive into the pros and cons of different 
> language or environments.
> 
> Suffice to say that I wrote a fairly feature rich Emacs clone in TECO-8. 
> TPU would not even get close to running on a PDP-8...
> 
> Not a direct argument for TECO on VMS, but it might say a little about 
> how complicated or easy it is to write a screen oriented editor in TECO.
> 

I wonder why no one ever wrote a version of vi in TPU instead of just
using the Unix C one's that were floating around?  Could have made vi
a real VMS editor.

bill