[Info-vax] VGIT for VMS x86-64 - failed to make .git directory

[Craig A. Berry]

On 5/9/23 5:40 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
> On 09/05/2023 23:37, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 5/9/2023 5:05 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>> On 2023-05-09 16:48:52 +0000, MJ OS_EXAMINE said:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 11:58:51 AM UTC-4, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>>> With SET PROCESS/PARSE=EXTEND and on an ODS-5 disk? If not, start 
>>>>> there.
>>>> I should have checked that the disk had ODS-5, as that turned out to 
>>>> be the
>>>> issue.
>>>> Doing the init without specifying /struct still defaults to ODS-2, 
>>>> apparently.
>>>
>>> It is safe to assume that OpenVMS app and system defaults are 
>>> somewhere between
>>> somewhat-less-than-optimal, and wrong. Most were probably reasonable 
>>> choices,
>>> once upon a time.
>>
>> If talking about disk initialization, I for one would assume that 
>> defaulting to original operations would be reasonable, and using newer 
>> capabilities an option.  Or, if the option was not specified, ask the 
>> user which is desired.

Defaulting to "original operations" for 10 or 20 years after those
defaults are deprecated might make sense.  After that, not so much.  How
many years did ODS-1 get?  ODS-2 is now well past its due date.

>>> It is also safe to assume that OpenVMS tools will not check 
>>> prerequisites such
>>> as required quotas or volume formats, and the resulting 
>>> misconfigurations can or
>>> will fail with obscure messages.
>>
>> One needs to be a bit competent to do things, though, obscure messages 
>> are never acceptable.
>>
>>> Compatibility is a harsh default, particularly when the costs of 
>>> compatibility
>>> are shifted to new work and not onto under- or unmaintained apps. 
>>> Trade-offs
>>> between short term and long term are never fun choices.
>>>
>>
>> Quite so.
>>
> 
> I haven't checked on VMS 9.2-1 but the defaults for initialising a disk 
> have been unusable for a very long time

I think /LIMIT, which actually means *don't* limit future expansion,
has been de rigeur for quite a while now.